http://www.sddialedin.com/2008/11/best-billboard-ever-apology-for-passage.html
Church appologizes for the passing of Prop 8
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Posted 1 year ago #
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Ofcourse they can be sorry now, mission accomplished.
I'll say sorry once I have my revenge, sorry is cheap and it make the other party feels less willing to take a counter revenge.
We are still going to fuck you.
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The church being talked about in the article didn't support the passage of Prop 8, they opposed it. They're apologizing for all those that did support it.
You REALLY shouldn't lump all religious people together, Bracer
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Kudos for them!!!
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Why would they apologize? If they were against it, it wasn't their fault, right? Can we take it as a "PR stunt" to remind gay folks that not all religious organization are pro-Prop 8, and to avoid negative protests, conflict between the anti-prop 8 and the church.
In essence, they are apologizing for other religious organizations that are Pro-Prop 8
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One church apologizes for another radical church. It means nothing! Bracer is right, in this case sorry is cheap.
Those retarded Mormons should better apologize for thier support of Prop 8.
"The ordinary man consider religion as right, the wise man as false and the politician as useful". (Seneca)
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Did anyone go to the church's website and see what they had to say? (Other than minienigma that is) Missiongathering Christian Church appears, on all fronts, to be an inclusive church, like many thousands of churches in the US and around the world. While they may not take an overtly pro-gay stance on LGBTQ issues, the 'Core Values' section of their website states the following, under "Truth": "We believe that truth is an ongoing journey, that we never have it all figured out. Truth is something that we try to humbly live and are constantly seeking." This sentiment is similar to the God Is Still Speaking, campaign of the United Church of Christ.
Missiongathering Christian Church has nothing to apologize for. They are one of our greatest allies and assets in the struggle against religious institutionalism and injustice. We can't get anywhere without them and other places of worship like them.
PS, this is one of the signs I carried to the Columbus Prop 8 protest:
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I think it's a wonderful sentiment.
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I like the sign, except the last line.
Christianity for all...NO,thanks!
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I agree with Marc, it is a wonderful sentiment. The statement "Christianity for All" means that all are welcome. They are saying that their church does not discriminate. I do not think that they are saying that all should be Christians.
Good for them!
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I agree with Cray and Marc about the statement and sentiment, and yagerma about what the "for all" means. For the anti-religious: if you don't want to be religious, that's cool - don't. We have that right. We also have the right to be religious. Both have the right to espouse their view (which, in your defense, is what you're doing), but I draw the line when that view talks about what others should/need to do.
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But you can interpret "Christianity for all" also in another way.
Like, Christianity is so great, you should all "enjoy" it.Back to the topic. If that Missiongathering Christian Church care so much, they should not only apologize but speak out and do something against those radical churches, like the LDS (Mormon)Church.
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If that Missiongathering Christian Church care so much, they should not only apologize but speak out and do something against those radical churches, like the LDS (Mormon)Church.
They do; that's why they're doing this.
In this way, they make a pretty bold statement: we're Christian, we consider ourselves Christ-like, we consider ourselves to be walking the walk... and we deplore what these other folks are doing.
It carries a lot of weight, because it helps remove the "it's a Christian thing... if you're Christian, you're anti-gay-marriage" for the average person. If the average American is saying, "I don't really care, except that I'm Christian, and the Christians are against it, so I'll go with that", this will help them understand not all Christians feel the same.
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An apology is not enough. They could clearly state what they think about radical, fundamental churches.
But as long as the Catholic church does not change their view, probably the majority of the Christians won't change thier standpoint towards gays too.
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Why do you assume that if the Catholic church changed it's view the majority of Christians will change their view as well? The Vatican has little to no control over what half of it's on following believes, yet alone the majority of Christians.
An apology is not enough. They could clearly state what they think about radical, fundamental churches.
They have clearly stated what they think. Look at the bill board in the article I linked to, they call them narrow minded, judgmental, deceptive, and manipulative. That's a pretty clear message right there. As for the apology not being enough, what exactly have the majority of people that oppose prop 8 been doing that is so much better? They are actively trying to organize their congregation (and Christians of other sects) to stand up for our rights.
If you're expecting them to donate money, or even tell their congregation to donate money, then you're expecting hypocrisy. Some sects actually believe in the separation of church and state and actively practice this belief (unlike the Mormons, Catholics, Evangelicals, et al.).
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